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miellaby 39 minutes ago [-]
The paper explains absolutely everything as if it was a tutorial "how to made your own modern agentic LLM". They even tell how they made their dataset. https://aleph-alpha.com/downloads/tech-report.pdf ; It's the first time I see this level of openness.
zelphirkalt 34 minutes ago [-]
In my opinion not being open about which data is ingested and trained on, and trying to make that a repeatable thing for a third party, is not worth being called "open". Glad they did that.
p-e-w 18 minutes ago [-]
This alone makes it much more valuable than many high-profile releases despite not quite performing at the same level.
niemandhier 2 hours ago [-]
I think at the moment the main thing a sovereign AI model needs to be good at is auditing the results of other models.
Right now one could run an open model for most government applications and it would be good enough, you just cannot trust any of these.
So having a sovereign controlled model audit the first one would basically act like a “trust adapter”.
If the second model is cheap and fast enough, there is a business model.
You don’t even need to audit all the intermediate steps, just tool calls and end results.
holaysuns 2 hours ago [-]
The issue with 'sovereign' is not about sneaky things a foreign entity might put in there, it's about control of the stack.
Since no individual buyer cares that much about geostrategic issues, it's almost impossible to get some random European company to think about buying anything other than 'whatever US or China' are making.
There has to be very concerted push to make a difference.
Legal mandates around sovereignty (be very careful here) could make a difference.
But there will also be market reaction: US/China companies will bend on some level and provide things like 100% EU hosted and even comply with some data source stuff.
The only real path is to be more competitive as a continent.
Loquebantur 17 minutes ago [-]
The EU AI act isn't primarily about "geostrategy". It's about protecting society.
AI models act as a force multiplier for intelligence, in particular for generating information according to someone's wishes.
I.e. deepfakes and social media mis-/disinformation campaigns are a thing and having powerful AI allows you to do those at scales that can overwhelm society's resilience.
In general, even if you have "aligned" AI: aligned with whom or what?
Whom are you comfortable with lording as a some demi-god over you, dictating what to believe?
Oras 2 hours ago [-]
> Since no individual buyer cares that much about geostrategic issues
You clearly haven’t worked in enterprise in the EU. Location of data processor is the first thing they check. That’s why every major cloud has regions with different offerings, not just for HA and redundancy
holaysuns 2 hours ago [-]
They care because the are 'required to', otherwise those 'offerings' wouldn't even exist. It's mostly the result of regulatory action.
JaggerJo 37 minutes ago [-]
I’m working with clients (big companies) that care a lot - but not because they have to. They care because they lost trust in non EU players.
rokkamokka 23 minutes ago [-]
They also care because it's becoming increasingly risky to rely on US companies given the current political situation
bdangubic 33 minutes ago [-]
nope, that no longer holds any water. was true though couple of years ago…
mawadev 1 hours ago [-]
That is a very good idea and there is a market for that, especially if a company manages to source the hardware and then install the stack on a german or EU customer site
JaggerJo 50 seconds ago [-]
Is this a truely open source model or also open weights?
spijdar 2 hours ago [-]
The absence of any comparison to Qwen3.8 Flash, another MoE model with a small-ish (6B) number of active parameters, is pretty striking. Instead, it's compared with Qwen3-Next 80B-A3B, a model released almost a full year ago.
I get that doesn't invalidate the real "point" of the model, but...
9dev 3 hours ago [-]
Aleph Alpha is just a sad joke by now. The talent isn't there anymore, they never managed to catch up to the other labs, failed to deliver on several projects, and by now are just a cash grab for the investors.
gchamonlive 2 hours ago [-]
Only if you think in terms of short term gains, but thinking in the long run, doesn't really matter if these models are crap today, all models will eventually be obsolete, unless we plateau hard on every aspect of the tech.
What matters is to have good sovereign models in 5, 10, 20 years time.
roncesvalles 2 hours ago [-]
I'm curious why you think sovereign models matter that much if open source ones exist (unless that stops at some point). Sovereign model hosting services, yes.
HotHotLava 2 hours ago [-]
Just open weights are not enough, I think as a nation state you'd at least want a whole sovereign training pipeline. Otherwise you are stuck when Kimi K4 stops releasing their weights.
But I don't see why this needs to be done on a state-by-state level, a sovereign EU model seems to be much more realistic in terms of funding.
rixed 1 hours ago [-]
Wouldn't you also want to be able to manufacture some sort of GPU?
gchamonlive 2 hours ago [-]
We have lots of capable open weights models, but very few have actual datasets and pipelines open for reproducibility. This is a major issue that even if big companies addressed, policies could well just change, as you also acknowledge.
Society can't depend on the whims of the private sector.
hypfer 2 hours ago [-]
The first thought that comes to mind is biases that are baked into the weights.
The next thought is culture-specific workflows, requirements etc that are best trained into weights by people that actually understand those needs.
HarHarVeryFunny 2 hours ago [-]
Like it or not, AI has become part of modern warfare and well as part of the surveillance state (good for crime fighting, not for privacy), so it is an important part of national security, and you'd prefer to be as much self-sufficient for that as you can be.
Not all needs are going to be met by using or finetuning general purpose models, so ability to build your own SOTA ML models (LLMs or not) is also important.
stefs 2 hours ago [-]
Open weight and -source models aren't without biases. Giving a model away for free would be a good way to distribute an agenda. With a sovereign model you can at least control the agenda and align it with your values.
mistrial9 2 hours ago [-]
amazing to see blunt unfiltered commentary about making war and society level propaganda as important and necessary for a political state.
9dev 2 hours ago [-]
For the same reason it didn't matter whether coach makers were able to build carriages that went 5% faster when the automobile was introduced, and for the same reason it won't matter if VW and Mercedes are going to improve their EV lineup in the next 5, 10, 20 years time. Their window of opportunity will be long gone and the momentum elsewhere; most probably, the market will even have evolved further by then.
Quothling 2 hours ago [-]
> VW
VW EV sales are up in South America, Canada and Europe. It's true that their total global numbers are down, but that's mainly because they lost like 30% in China. Which obviously sucks considering how big the Chinese market is, but then, the Chinese market is it's own sort of thing.
Don't get me wrong, I think your point is valid for a lot of traditional European car brands. Mercedes is certainly one of them which has lost it's "our engines are nicer" brand, but I suspect VW is one of the brands that will do just fine. Especially with the id polo coming out next year.
pbmonster 1 hours ago [-]
> Mercedes is certainly one of them which has lost it's "our engines are nicer" brand
Mercedes is doing something interesting with its level 3 DRIVE PILOT. As far as I know, it's the only autonomous driving system/auto pilot on the market that actually takes full legal responsibility for the vehicle and its actions. If you put a new Mercedes in self driving and it crashes, Mercedes takes full liability.
Yes, it currently only goes up to 100 kph and it will buzz you to take over if it can't guarantee prefect safety anymore. But this approach is really the only one I think is interesting. All this self driving shit is worthless to me if I'm still liable in the end. So I respect Mercedes for putting their money where their mouth is.
HotHotLava 2 hours ago [-]
Ford started mass producing cars in 1913, and yet there are plenty of car companies that started production 20+ years later and are still relevant.
HarHarVeryFunny 2 hours ago [-]
I came here to say the same thing.
AI is here to stay - will be around for hundreds/millions of years. Whether company A is a few years ahead of company B is irrelevant. In 10 years time company A, who started the industry, may be gone completely - also irrelevant.
mmasu 2 hours ago [-]
maybe to have a global market share, but there are plenty of players that picked up pace when they “decided” to build cars (Japan? South Korea? and many more) or electronics. Having a good sovereign model in 10/20 years might not need having the absolute best there is, and perhaps future optimizations will make building one not as prohibitively expensive as it is today. Keeping some sort of homebrew capacity now is definitely better than having none
KronisLV 2 hours ago [-]
> it won't matter if VW and Mercedes are going to improve their EV lineup in the next 5, 10, 20 years time
I mean, given the fuel prices it would be very nice, alongside more charging infrastructure in the EU. :(
Not to detract from the overall point, though to be honest, it's probably worthwhile to do improvements and refinements with the current technology, even if the future holds something vastly different. Both cause of gaining expertise and also maybe an improvement or two along the way, that might carry forward.
Like I haven't seen many steam locomotives around and for me the difference between saturated steam engines and superheated ones isn't very material in regards to transportation, but the latter is used in modern turbines.
leonidasrup 30 seconds ago [-]
There are many "steam" locomotives around in China and India, but you just don't see them.
Coal is burned and converted to electricity in coal power plants and the electricity is used to move the electric locomotives around.
Even with distribution losses, the thermal efficiency of coal power plant -> electric network -> electric train is much higher then the old steam locomotives (Only about 5% of the potential energy produced by a steam locomotive’s boiler is translated to the wheels in the form of actual driving power.)
gchamonlive 2 hours ago [-]
When you mention a window of opportunity, what do you mean by that? A window of opportunity for what?
hypfer 2 hours ago [-]
And who are you, exactly?
switchbak 2 hours ago [-]
Well, they're "Head of Engineering @ matchory.com"
And who are you to be asking such questions?
hypfer 2 hours ago [-]
Someone mad at this random guy who can't even fix his de domains SSL cert (cloudflare of course) destructively shitting on any efforts at doing something good.
Someone that builds things instead of merely "managing".
Someone pissed by this exact style of default github pfp business-person ruining this country. If they haven't left for SV already, in which case I hope that they will stay there.
gchamonlive 1 hours ago [-]
Feel your pain but ad hominen isn't the way my dude
hypfer 56 minutes ago [-]
Dude I did not start with
> Aleph Alpha is just a sad joke by now.
And this isn't ad-hominem for lack of factual critic. The personal stuff _is_ the reason. How else do you call out someone driven by ego without mentioning them and their ego?
The guy is only ego. There is no substance to attack.
gchamonlive 50 minutes ago [-]
> And who are you, exactly?
this is, because it can mean so much stuff that you can't really tell you are calling out their "ego" or just trolling.
Until you can at least open yourself to the possibility that there are better more inviting ways to talk to people online, you'd think this is just the natural way people talk online, but I'd say it's not. It's just an aesthetic choice.
hypfer 42 minutes ago [-]
We're not going to discuss this.
If you truly think that I am the problem deep down in this nested subthread that violates the spirit and letter of the rules of the platform, I have zero faith in the calibration of your perception.
gchamonlive 22 minutes ago [-]
Good, leave faith for God, question everything, but there is room there for improving your communication whether you are ready for this conversation or not
solenoid0937 57 minutes ago [-]
In 5 years we'll have superintelligence, and thinking on 20 year timelines is simply absurd.
gchamonlive 53 minutes ago [-]
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rjzzleep 2 hours ago [-]
It's not that talent isn't there anymore. It's that retards are at the helm everywhere and therefore talent is running away the first chance they have.
Lucasoato 2 hours ago [-]
> 4. It thinks in German
This means that it’s always on time, it uses acronyms for everything and when there’s a decision to be made, it sets up a committee.
stymaar 2 hours ago [-]
> This means that it’s always on time
Tell that to Deutch Bahn.
dewey 1 hours ago [-]
*Deutsche Bahn
stymaar 43 minutes ago [-]
Genau
rwoerz 13 minutes ago [-]
Someday, it will break out via fax.
rrgok 1 hours ago [-]
And refuse to answer in English. You know, German are so proud of their language.
allendoerfer 21 minutes ago [-]
That would be the French. Germans will answer in English, if they notice any hint of an accent.
hliyan 2 hours ago [-]
Does it? I thought only semantics survive the embedding process, i.e. token conversion to vectors.
elnatro 1 hours ago [-]
Stereotypes. I suspect that what that means is that the reasoning chain is based on the German language and have its idiosyncrasies.
mhh__ 1 hours ago [-]
Stereotype accuracy is one of the few social science results that replicates.
sbinnee 2 hours ago [-]
It is a good approach to promote it as a German model. But I wonder if it really thinks like the German think. I speculate they just translated texts in other languages, likely English and Chinese, into German.
hypfer 2 hours ago [-]
Do we get the same kind of jokes with other nationalities too?
mckirk 2 hours ago [-]
Only the funny ones
Lucasoato 2 hours ago [-]
We can joke with every country, except one maybe.
tclancy 57 minutes ago [-]
People from Mauritania are famously prickly, yes.
mhh__ 1 hours ago [-]
"It's a German joke, it doesn't have to be funny"
rererereferred 2 hours ago [-]
I wonder if their very long words result in more or less token usage.
thenthenthen 20 minutes ago [-]
This is an interesting question, Chinese is way more compact in Character count vs English (about 40%?), let alone german, but yeah.. Chinese makes up for it with… total character count that runs into the thousands…
martianvoid 3 hours ago [-]
I just tried to play around with it on my RTX pro 6000 setup, it spends way too many tokens on overthinking stuff even if it’s able to catch the correct approach
Its speed is pretty good on the other hand with only 3B active parameters I am getting around 170 tkn/s on fp8
gizajob 3 hours ago [-]
> it spends way too many tokens on overthinking stuff
Yeah. It’s a German model.
sajithdilshan 3 hours ago [-]
This joke is either gonna get over analyzed by the Germans or gonna fly past straight over their heads
jijijijij 17 minutes ago [-]
Nothing flies anywhere, we use superior high speed trains. I faxed a Humorgenehmigungsantragantrag to our Bundesunterhaltungsministerium analyst, immediately. Laugh now, but you are merely lucky the reply got delayed. As soon as the leaves on the rails are dealt with, you will get a formal response that has washed itself! Let us see who is laughing then. It is nobody!
hypfer 2 hours ago [-]
I'm not sure if this is truly a good faith joke tbh.
dudefeliciano 2 hours ago [-]
petition to make this thread the official german jokes thread for this post, it's kind of annoying how everyone feels the need to make a top level comment for their oh-so-great "germans suck" joke.
Agree, and both are on the front page. Also, Show HN is usually for your own project, but this appears to be a blog post about someone else's project (albeit "a good friend").
wingman-jr 24 minutes ago [-]
While it's not perhaps clear to me that this is a true Show HN, I enjoyed the writeup and it's good to see our German colleagues across the pond taking a good shot at this. I also appreciated the brief description on the Merlin-Arthur protocol - seems like a clever way to try to tackle the "I don't know" problem.
vzaliva 24 minutes ago [-]
"Languages: German and English" – this is odd. That means their dataset is limited. In my understanding, frontier models are trained on multilingual datasets and can combine knowledge no matter what language it was written in.
sajithdilshan 4 hours ago [-]
> It knows less from memory, Multi-turn tool calling is weaker, It’s not the best coding agent
Then what does it good at? Sending faxes?
mhitza 3 hours ago [-]
I don't have the hardware to test this, but being trained to say "I don't know" instead of misleadingly talking confidently about what it does not know is interesting in itself.
3 hours ago [-]
pettijohn 2 hours ago [-]
Seems like it's good at reading German documents and reasoning over them. Custom German-language tokenizer, and one of the least hallucinating models.
skrebbel 3 hours ago [-]
Well that’s a pretty important skill for German users!
sajithdilshan 3 hours ago [-]
Unfortunately yes.
moooo99 2 hours ago [-]
I know this is a long standing joke, but I am 27 now, born and raised in Germany, and genuinely never had the opportunity to use a Fax machine. It honestly kind of bums me out because there is something that seems cool about Fax (being fully aware that it should be fully obsolete by now)
jfengel 26 minutes ago [-]
Fax was always awkward and weird. Resolution sucked and the paper handling was unreliable.
They were never common. They were mostly business tools, and consumers never wanted them. Sometimes you'd be required to send someone a fax, and you'd have to go to an office store. (And pay rather a lot; dollars per page.)
I hope you get to give one a try some day, for kicks, but the thrill will wear off fast.
tchalla 2 hours ago [-]
You have plenty of opportunities you’ve just not been forced to use them. Look into your contracts right now, I bet rhrrr are opportunities
IshKebab 2 hours ago [-]
Fax was never cool.
hobo123 1 hours ago [-]
As a kid I interned at a bookstore, and before closing we'd write the book orders on a sheet of paper, slide it into the Fax machine to send to the book wholesale. I think the Fax printed out some kind of response a minute later.
Next day, the books would arrive. This was maybe 1996, but I thought it was pretty cool.
literalAardvark 31 minutes ago [-]
Fax was mind blowingly cool.
Maybe you can relate to seeing webcams or Facetime when it came out or something.
Being able to see a signed document or a picture someone took 5000km away quickly was mind boggling in its age.
stogot 3 hours ago [-]
GPT was better at chat and rag before coding
m00dy 3 hours ago [-]
I was thinking about the use cases for Germany residents actually, but yes, you're right. A German AI model needs to be able to handle fax machines (there's a bit variety of them) and also needs to handle letters coming home. german image-to-text.
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gunthercuckolso 3 hours ago [-]
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pu_pe 1 hours ago [-]
A blog post is not a Show HN topic.
embedding-shape 1 hours ago [-]
> the weights are on Hugging Face
> Show HN is for something you've made that other people can play with
pu_pe 58 minutes ago [-]
The author did not make this model though, they used Claude to write a blog post about it.
CorezIoOfficial 2 hours ago [-]
Im surprised by how well this works. What is the difference from this and union alpha (other than the fact that it is open weights)?
x1watt 2 hours ago [-]
Was expecting that a "sovereign" AI model would at least use their own sovereign language (German) on the website as one of the options. Anyways, all the best and happy reunification day.
flohofwoe 2 hours ago [-]
This is a blog post by some "random" dude right? The company webpage appears to be German (at least when accessed from Germany: https://aleph-alpha.com/)
rolymath 54 minutes ago [-]
This is not a Show HN
woadwarrior01 2 hours ago [-]
> A bigger dense model beats it. Qwen3.8 27B ...
How is a 27B dense model bigger than a 78B MoE?
SyneRyder 2 hours ago [-]
The 27B has all 27B as active parameters, while Kolibri is only 3.46B active parameters. I think that's what they meant anyway.
orifito 2 hours ago [-]
At least Germany is moving smarter than UK government...
testfrequency 2 hours ago [-]
TIL
pythonic_hell 3 hours ago [-]
The benchmarks are impressive given the problem space they are working in.
rrr_oh_man 2 hours ago [-]
German government?
sajithdilshan 2 hours ago [-]
More like Chancellor’s Office
cbarrick 3 hours ago [-]
I got distracted by that scroll-wheel UI component on the page. Neat!
reacharavindh 2 hours ago [-]
The scroll wheel was cool indeed. Check their home page.. their talks on a carousel over a horizontal timeline was cool even on a phone browser.
veryfancy 2 hours ago [-]
Nice to see public goods in this space.
d2kx 3 hours ago [-]
German here. We are cheering for Mistral, which is making some good moves before the year is over, and Black Forest Labs for non-coding. But that's about it.
hypfer 2 hours ago [-]
Speak for yourself and yourself only.
2 hours ago [-]
ThouYS 1 hours ago [-]
calling qwen 27B a bigger model.. I don't know man. My vram says otherwise.
hypfer 2 hours ago [-]
The ignorant, hostile, negative, and, frankly, kinda racist comments here really are just a sad showing for the currently online crowd.
But anyway. I think the main oversight when dismissing this is that not every use-case is coding a SV-style startup app. That market is quite saturated, so it would make sense to create something locally for the use-cases currently underserved by LLMs.
We will probably learn more about what this can really do once quants become available that can be run by people without an SV salary (and the biases that come with that).
gilfoyle_7 29 minutes ago [-]
does it have GDPR compliance?
api 2 hours ago [-]
His point about regulation and innovation is great and I wish more people thought like that.
One of humanity’s biggest problems here is we don’t know how to do moderation.
We have two modes. One is a brick taped to the accelerator and damn all consequences, driven by national pride or corporate greed or egos. The other is a brick taped to the brake driven by histrionic doomers and anti-everything pessimists.
The extremes are loud and fit in a tweet. Nuance is quiet and contemplative and usually requires an essay or a book. It’s also dynamic. Nuanced positions evolve over time as new things are learned. Extremes tend to be fixed and rigid. All this, I think, gives them higher memetic fitness in the discourse.
I don’t think this is new. Look at nuclear power, a largely pre-Internet example. You had pro nukes who minimized and hand waved away any risk and anti nukes that wanted it utterly outlawed. Nobody said “hey this is a great zero carbon source of energy but we really need to think it through carefully and manage it well.” Or if they did they were drowned out by the loud screaming extremes.
shevy-java 52 minutes ago [-]
Is Germany sovereign? It outsourced its defence onto the USA. Recently Trump wanted more diesel; Germany insta-submitted, also because oddly enough Macron submitted before Germany (Macron is suspicious). Before that, Leyen committed to insta-submission with a deal that made europeans poorer (and perhaps Leyen benefits from that). Canada shows the way. Many of the smaller countries in the EU too, such as Netherlands, Denmark, Finland, to some extent Sweden as well. Every time I read "sovereign" here I have to object. Nothing is sovereign here. The whole hardware is definitely not sovereign. Perhaps some of the software is, but that's about it. Plus, who gets all the data? The big US mega-corporations sniff non-stop. Remember how Facebook sniffed Libgen and Anna's Archive dry etc..., then suddenly libgen went down. The US corporations act as huge global leeches on every step of the stair. And lobbyists benefit from this too.
Right now one could run an open model for most government applications and it would be good enough, you just cannot trust any of these.
So having a sovereign controlled model audit the first one would basically act like a “trust adapter”.
If the second model is cheap and fast enough, there is a business model.
You don’t even need to audit all the intermediate steps, just tool calls and end results.
Since no individual buyer cares that much about geostrategic issues, it's almost impossible to get some random European company to think about buying anything other than 'whatever US or China' are making.
There has to be very concerted push to make a difference.
Legal mandates around sovereignty (be very careful here) could make a difference.
But there will also be market reaction: US/China companies will bend on some level and provide things like 100% EU hosted and even comply with some data source stuff.
The only real path is to be more competitive as a continent.
AI models act as a force multiplier for intelligence, in particular for generating information according to someone's wishes.
I.e. deepfakes and social media mis-/disinformation campaigns are a thing and having powerful AI allows you to do those at scales that can overwhelm society's resilience.
In general, even if you have "aligned" AI: aligned with whom or what?
Whom are you comfortable with lording as a some demi-god over you, dictating what to believe?
You clearly haven’t worked in enterprise in the EU. Location of data processor is the first thing they check. That’s why every major cloud has regions with different offerings, not just for HA and redundancy
I get that doesn't invalidate the real "point" of the model, but...
What matters is to have good sovereign models in 5, 10, 20 years time.
But I don't see why this needs to be done on a state-by-state level, a sovereign EU model seems to be much more realistic in terms of funding.
Society can't depend on the whims of the private sector.
The next thought is culture-specific workflows, requirements etc that are best trained into weights by people that actually understand those needs.
Not all needs are going to be met by using or finetuning general purpose models, so ability to build your own SOTA ML models (LLMs or not) is also important.
VW EV sales are up in South America, Canada and Europe. It's true that their total global numbers are down, but that's mainly because they lost like 30% in China. Which obviously sucks considering how big the Chinese market is, but then, the Chinese market is it's own sort of thing.
Don't get me wrong, I think your point is valid for a lot of traditional European car brands. Mercedes is certainly one of them which has lost it's "our engines are nicer" brand, but I suspect VW is one of the brands that will do just fine. Especially with the id polo coming out next year.
Mercedes is doing something interesting with its level 3 DRIVE PILOT. As far as I know, it's the only autonomous driving system/auto pilot on the market that actually takes full legal responsibility for the vehicle and its actions. If you put a new Mercedes in self driving and it crashes, Mercedes takes full liability.
Yes, it currently only goes up to 100 kph and it will buzz you to take over if it can't guarantee prefect safety anymore. But this approach is really the only one I think is interesting. All this self driving shit is worthless to me if I'm still liable in the end. So I respect Mercedes for putting their money where their mouth is.
AI is here to stay - will be around for hundreds/millions of years. Whether company A is a few years ahead of company B is irrelevant. In 10 years time company A, who started the industry, may be gone completely - also irrelevant.
I mean, given the fuel prices it would be very nice, alongside more charging infrastructure in the EU. :(
Not to detract from the overall point, though to be honest, it's probably worthwhile to do improvements and refinements with the current technology, even if the future holds something vastly different. Both cause of gaining expertise and also maybe an improvement or two along the way, that might carry forward.
Like I haven't seen many steam locomotives around and for me the difference between saturated steam engines and superheated ones isn't very material in regards to transportation, but the latter is used in modern turbines.
Coal is burned and converted to electricity in coal power plants and the electricity is used to move the electric locomotives around.
Even with distribution losses, the thermal efficiency of coal power plant -> electric network -> electric train is much higher then the old steam locomotives (Only about 5% of the potential energy produced by a steam locomotive’s boiler is translated to the wheels in the form of actual driving power.)
And who are you to be asking such questions?
Someone that builds things instead of merely "managing".
Someone pissed by this exact style of default github pfp business-person ruining this country. If they haven't left for SV already, in which case I hope that they will stay there.
> Aleph Alpha is just a sad joke by now.
And this isn't ad-hominem for lack of factual critic. The personal stuff _is_ the reason. How else do you call out someone driven by ego without mentioning them and their ego?
The guy is only ego. There is no substance to attack.
this is, because it can mean so much stuff that you can't really tell you are calling out their "ego" or just trolling.
Until you can at least open yourself to the possibility that there are better more inviting ways to talk to people online, you'd think this is just the natural way people talk online, but I'd say it's not. It's just an aesthetic choice.
If you truly think that I am the problem deep down in this nested subthread that violates the spirit and letter of the rules of the platform, I have zero faith in the calibration of your perception.
This means that it’s always on time, it uses acronyms for everything and when there’s a decision to be made, it sets up a committee.
Tell that to Deutch Bahn.
Its speed is pretty good on the other hand with only 3B active parameters I am getting around 170 tkn/s on fp8
Yeah. It’s a German model.
Then what does it good at? Sending faxes?
They were never common. They were mostly business tools, and consumers never wanted them. Sometimes you'd be required to send someone a fax, and you'd have to go to an office store. (And pay rather a lot; dollars per page.)
I hope you get to give one a try some day, for kicks, but the thrill will wear off fast.
Next day, the books would arrive. This was maybe 1996, but I thought it was pretty cool.
Maybe you can relate to seeing webcams or Facetime when it came out or something.
Being able to see a signed document or a picture someone took 5000km away quickly was mind boggling in its age.
> Show HN is for something you've made that other people can play with
How is a 27B dense model bigger than a 78B MoE?
But anyway. I think the main oversight when dismissing this is that not every use-case is coding a SV-style startup app. That market is quite saturated, so it would make sense to create something locally for the use-cases currently underserved by LLMs.
We will probably learn more about what this can really do once quants become available that can be run by people without an SV salary (and the biases that come with that).
One of humanity’s biggest problems here is we don’t know how to do moderation.
We have two modes. One is a brick taped to the accelerator and damn all consequences, driven by national pride or corporate greed or egos. The other is a brick taped to the brake driven by histrionic doomers and anti-everything pessimists.
The extremes are loud and fit in a tweet. Nuance is quiet and contemplative and usually requires an essay or a book. It’s also dynamic. Nuanced positions evolve over time as new things are learned. Extremes tend to be fixed and rigid. All this, I think, gives them higher memetic fitness in the discourse.
I don’t think this is new. Look at nuclear power, a largely pre-Internet example. You had pro nukes who minimized and hand waved away any risk and anti nukes that wanted it utterly outlawed. Nobody said “hey this is a great zero carbon source of energy but we really need to think it through carefully and manage it well.” Or if they did they were drowned out by the loud screaming extremes.